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Comparing I.33 to Andre Lignitzer

3/8/2024

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In this series, I will compare Andre Lignitzer's sword and buckler techniques to my interpretation of I.33 techniques. The goal of this series is to see what techniques are similar and potentially universally true in sword and buckler combat and to explore the differences between the two system's techniques.

​About Andre Lignitzer and His System

Andre Ligntizer was a fencing master assumed to have lived from the late 14th century to the middle of the 15th century. His work can be found in a number of manuscripts from the Liechtenauer tradition that are from the middle of the 15th century. Andre Lignitzer is credited with authoring techniques on half-swording with a longsword, grappling, dagger fighting, and sword and buckler fencing.

Lignitzer’s sword and buckler system is structured into six short but detailed plays. These plays include terminology used in Liechtenauer longsword systems, such as the Oberhaw, to communicate technique. Lignitzer’s work captures a practical and concise look at the use of sword and buckler which seems to be intuitive enough to adopt once a fencer has learned the longsword vernacular.

How to Use These Comparisons

In this series, I reference sections of Dr. Forgeng's translation of I33 found in his book The Medieval Art of Swordsmanship. The crosses in the plays are referenced but the complete section is not quoted for intellectual copyright reasons. Because of this, I have included a summary of my interpretation of the section. However, it is beneficial to have Forgeng's translation when comparing the Andre Lignitzer Interpretation to I.33.

Keith Farrell's Interpretation of Andre Lignitzer

This section contains links to my I.33 comparisons to the Andre Lignitzer plays as interpreted by Keith Farrell. I just this system because of its availability and popularity in the HEMA community. A link to his interpretation can be found on wiktenauer or on his main site.

Comparisons:
Comparing I.33 and Lignitzer: Play I
Comparing I.33 and Lignitzer: Play II
Comparing I.33 and Lignitzer: Play III
Comparing I.33 and Lignitzer: Play IV
Comparing I.33 and Lignitzer: Play V
Comparing I.33 and Lignitzer: Play VI


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